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Has anyone seen this, Franklin Armory has produced a non NFA SBR, Reformation RS7 and RS11 in 5.56 and 300 BLK.

http://www.reformationfirearms.com/services.html


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From what I have read ATF has approved it.


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They also approved bump stocks


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I don't see how it's that different from the shockwave etc shorty shotgun concepts. I'm guessing it's main point is having a butt stock rather than an arm brace. Honestly, I surprised by the mixed bag of things making it through the ATF review process. Things like this are making it through OK but the 50 BMG AR15 uppers have all been pulled this year for review. Bump stocks are out. It could be almost anything approved or not on any given day. My hope is that someday I can put together a short barreled rifle with suppressor for hunting with no permits or tax stamps needed.
 
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Just thinking out loud... but if something like this can pass, what are the chances of a 12-14" barrel Contender or Encore with buttstock passing as a non NFA item?
 
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Originally posted by Mike Scott:
Just thinking out loud... but if something like this can pass, what are the chances of a 12-14" barrel Contender or Encore with buttstock passing as a non NFA item?


This beats the rifle definition since it has strait groves. Not rifling.


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Thanks, I missed that part of it.
 
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No that ATF has stated that it is okay to shoulder a pistol brace I fail to see the need for having to use special bullets to overcome the lack of rifling.


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Just thinking out loud... but if something like this can pass, what are the chances of a 12-14" barrel Contender or Encore with buttstock passing as a non NFA item?
Pistol brace a contender or encore pistol...


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I do understand that laws and policies etc don't have to make sense... but, how is a normal person supposed to juggle this information while also being able to explain to LEO at the shooting range or wherever that eveything is OK and not end up in handcuffs?

So at this point in this discussion, if I were to put my 4" long 45/70 barrel on a Contender frame along with an AR adapter stock and a pistol brace which is different than a stock but can still be rested on my shoulder...

Is it a pistol?
Is it a nonNFA SBR?
Would it matter to anyone but me?

Short Rant: This is stupid. What's the point of the NFA?
 
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Is it a pistol?
Yes, it's a pistol. I can't say that you couldn't have a potential issue with an LE but most braces state right on them "pistol brace", at least the KAK Shockwave I use does. Some guys print the ruling document and keep it in their pistol case just in case.


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